Who here smokes?

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Who here smokes?

I wonder why no-one&#039;s tried to bring this up as discrimination...<BR><BR>Was just doing some maths...<BR><BR>5 minutes fag break. Smoke 20 a day. Assume 10 are in work hours... That&#039;s 50 minutes. Lets be really generous and say it&#039;s half an hour. So that&#039;s 2.5 hours per working week. Times by 52 weeks in a year. That&#039;s 5*26 = 130 hours.<BR><BR>Really, that STAGGERS me. We work 9-5:30 (well, assumed) with an hour&#039;s lunch. That&#039;s 3+4.5=7.5 hours a day. Times 5. That&#039;s 37.5 hours per week.<BR><BR>So, 130 hours is just over 3 weeks extra holiday.<BR><BR>I wonder if people have actually added this up? Just because I don&#039;t go outside and puff on a cancerous stick, I&#039;m actually LOSING 3 weeks paid annual holiday.<BR><BR>Ok, there are some assumptions and guess-timates in there, but the maths shouldn&#039;t wildly vary. Well, not down at least.<BR><BR>I know some people will get offended by this, especially if they DO smoke. Just wondered what the different sides of the argument were...<BR><BR>Craig.

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RE: Who here smokes?

Oh, and I&#039;m prepared for the "I make up the hours" comments. I&#039;m not aiming this at anyone (especially anyone here). I&#039;m not trying to start a flame-war here.<BR><BR>I DO know people who keep exactly to clocking in/out times, and yet take these breaks.<BR><BR>And it&#039;s against those people that I&#039;m doing the comparison.<BR><BR>Craig.

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The **** up with stopping

is you dont have an excuese to go out and take a smoke break.....i hate that. That and only THAT is the reason i started again......<BR><BR><BR>

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How's that any different

from you posting in here?<BR><BR>Or taking coffee/tea breaks?<BR><BR>Or chatting in your cubicle/office?<BR><BR>Or making a personal phone call?<BR><BR>Or going to the bathroom?<BR><BR>Or surfing the net for non work related things?<BR><BR>Jeez, quit whining. It all works out in the end. Besides, most Americans are averaging 50 hour work weeks, most without overtime, and we don&#039;t get as much vacation as you guys over there get. As long as you get your stuff done when it&#039;s supposed to be done, no one should be whining.

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LOL

Heh, I actually still go out with the "gang" on breaks. Smell doesn&#039;t bug me anymore though -- I used to get severe cravings.

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RE: Who here smokes?

Well I&#039;m smoking again --- lasted a week :-(<BR><BR>Actually I use it as a way to see daylight and I think when I&#039;m outside too!<BR><BR>So in effect I&#039;m still working &#060;ExcuseForSmoking level=1&#062;<BR>So put that in your pipe and ...

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That's not the point.

I agree with posting on here, etc. I didn&#039;t include myself in the category. I waste enough time.<BR><BR>Vacation - Doug and I worked that out one day. We get about the same. Turned out one of us had 1 more day than the other, but I can&#039;t honestly remember which way around.<BR><BR>The point wasn&#039;t that I wanted more holiday. The point was WHY hasn&#039;t anyone asked this before? At a legal level. Bearing in mind the number of people that sue on grounds of discrimination, why isn&#039;t this classed as one? See my point?<BR><BR>Taking a "perfect" employee. Works 100% of the time, etc. Taking a "perfect" employee that does the same job but smokes. Works 100% of the time, less the time for cigarette breaks. According to law, they should be treated exactly the same.<BR><BR>Craig.

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Now there's a GOOD reason...

...go outside and admire the scenary.<BR><BR>Stupid windowless office - can&#039;t even SEE the sky or a tree from here!<BR><BR>And there we go. That&#039;s probably my 50 minutes of the day... :-)<BR><BR>Craig.

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RE: Who here smokes?

I don&#039;t smoke anymore, but when I did, 10 smokes on paid time was never acceptable. (I rarely admit that I&#039;ve quit and told no-one that I was quitting, but its been over a year, so I can fess up)<BR><BR>A break mid-morning and a break mid-afternoon, more than that must be made up for.<BR><BR>If people are taking 10 smoke breaks a day, the non smokers might ask for other compensations ;)<BR><BR>Of course, these days, I just sit in front of the screen and get pissed off instead of taking 5 (or TEN) minutes to walk and think.<BR><BR>Smokers are much more visible (smellable too) when taking breaks...

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RE: Who here smokes?

Yeah, I said they were assumptions. I actually basically allowed them 5*5-minute breaks, or 10*2.something-minute breaks.<BR><BR>Still - point stands. Why&#039;s no-one brought this up at an employment tribunal? Surely I&#039;m not the most bitter person in the world - there must be SOMEONE that&#039;s asked this before...!<BR><BR>Craig.

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