Ok...I can draw a table, and insert my records from a db, however, I can only draw continuous colums or rows. I am tring to draw 5 colums, then a row w/ 5 more colums. I am using the Do While Not objRs.EOF...Loop. Right now I am hand coding for about 25 rows, 5 colums/row, each peice of code just a tedious response write in each cell matching the amount of rows of html to the amount of rows of data in my db. Ugh....any ideas?